I get it, I'm stupid

"Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2" (pompei426) 01/02/2015 at 17:15 • Filed to: None

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Thanks for all the advice. Seriously. I didn't post to be a jackass. I honestly wanted to know more and hopefully get some solutions. And the 90% of you that said it, yes, I know !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Have a great night. I think I'm just going to pay the $25 and get the historic plates registered.

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ACESandEIGHTS > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 17:19

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Kill a traffic camera.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 17:32

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Hmm, I wish I hadn't gone back and read that post.

Mercedes Streeter > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 17:34

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I wouldn't say you're stupid, but rather trying to break the law and not get caught.

We'd all be liars (especially those of us with radar detectors) if we say we haven't tried doing that before. ;)

Svend > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 17:37

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With respect, don't get annoyed because you posted a thread titled 'How Stupid Am I? - running a fake license plate' and then others (myself included) say you are.

Only you can sort yourself out. There isn't a fix for a valid speeding ticket (especially when the speed was so much higher than the speed limit), just take it easy on the heavy right foot. If you need speed or to feel the rush of faster driving, go somewhere where it's safe to do so not just for others but for your safety too. The reason the speed limit is there is because that is the speed deemed suitable for driving safely on that stretch of road because of other road hazards, reaction to to an unexpected hazard and so many other factors.

Go to a track or find someone who has land that you can vent safely. A public road is not even an option.

I don't know what age you are or what driving experience you have but you need to sort it before you hurt yourself or someone else because I can guarantee that the driving experience you have means jack if a kid steps out chasing a cat or a ball and you don't want that moment to be the one that defines how you drive and who you've become.

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > Svend 01/02/2015 at 18:03

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It's not that I had a need for speed that has to be quenched and I've picked the wrong roads. These are very common roads in the area and the speed cameras disrupt traffic. Honestly, traffic goes one speed, then when the camera is coming up, everyone drops 10-20mph, the after a short distance returns to the initial speed. More of a burden that I don't want to deal with.

MysticStick > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 18:13

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All bs aside, maybe just get a radar detector? Or you could move to a less nazi place. I hate those stupid cameras too, we all do.

Svend > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/02/2015 at 18:17

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Okay a bit better your side and I understand but it's a burden that many of us have to deal with. The other people you mention know where the cameras are, you don't so air on the side of caution and drive safely. One day one of the others will find out what happens when they drive idiotically, don't let yourself be one of them.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Svend 01/02/2015 at 18:36

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"The reason the speed limit is there is because that is the speed deemed suitable for driving safely on that stretch of road because of other road hazards, reaction to to an unexpected hazard and so many other factors. "

... which often have to do with revenue generation. Seriously... a speed limit that incriminates the vast majority of drivers is NOT about safety. There are many other more effective ways to slow traffic down on a given stretch of road such as making the road more narrow, adding some humps and other things.

Of course those other solutions don't generate speeding ticket revenue...

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > ACESandEIGHTS 01/02/2015 at 18:38

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Or redecorate one with a nice can of paint...

Svend > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 01/02/2015 at 19:15

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Yes there are many factors such as road surface condition, proximity to residential property and children (play area or school), previous incidents on that stretch of road or simply that is what the local authority mandated it to be. Narrowing a road in the U.K. or Europe is one thing but in the U.S. the vehicles vary wildly in size and width and if someone were to drive idiotically then you're narrowing the area of avoidance correction for on coming traffic, speed humps don't always work and again with the varying size of vehicles from a Toyota Prius up to a Tacoma the speed humps will have varying results and may lead to further incidents where one vehicle slows down and another knows they won't feel or damage anything if they don't. Cameras aren't the be all and end all but then again nothing else is. Driver education would be a very good start but until then I guess fear of a ticket and being hit in the wallet will have to be enough of a scare tactic to gain compliance.

It's up to you whether you want to get a ticket, you're in charge of your vehicle and what happens is entirely up to you, whether you speed and get a ticket, whether you speed and reduce your reaction time from hitting that child in the road, whether you speed and the road surface or weather condition reduces the adhesion of the tyres on the road and you lose control of the car and damage the car/smash the car badly causing you to find another mode of transport while your car is getting repaired/smash the car and badly injure yourself/smash the car and kill yourself/smash the car and seriously injure or kill the occupants of your car/smash the car but take out another coming the other way and seriously injure or kill the occupants of the other car, and so on and so on OR you could drive the posted speed limit and get off your high horse about paying for machines that 'generate speeding ticket revenue' by not getting a ticket in the first place and so not allowing them to generate revenue and so on till they are merely a feature at the side of the road like many others.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Svend 01/02/2015 at 19:24

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You do some very good concern-trolling.

But it doesn't change the reality that traffic cameras are typically more about revenue than actual safety.

If they were truly about safety, then municipalities would keep them in operation even when they don't make money...

Svend > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 01/02/2015 at 19:50

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It's not 'trolling' it's common sense and obeying the law. It's a real thing.

Yes there are ones used to glean money but only from people who are breaking the law.

Okay, we'll try this one.

Question: What's the best way not to pay to fix a window you broke deliberately

Answer: Don't break the window in the first place.

It's as simple as that. We can debate till the cows come home whether they are right or wrong, generate money or road safety (personally I don't like them because like the OP has said, when people know where they are people slow down and then speed up once clear which either creates a safe spot or creates a larger danger spot before the camera as people slow down causing others who don't know of the camera to brake sharply and a larger danger spot after it as people who had slowed down for the camera now feel they can speed and so make silly mistakes).

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Svend 01/03/2015 at 00:53

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A more accurate window analogy would be "We designed this window to get rolled down all the way. But it's only legal to roll it down half way because if you roll it down all the way, something *might* happen, but most of the time won't. And if you roll it down all the way, we will issue a fine that is high enough that we'll make money, but not so high that it's worth seriously fighting in court and/or that it will ever truly be a deterrent."

And it isn't a debate about whether it's about money. Actions speak louder than words. When municipalities don't make money on the speed or red light cameras, they decline to renew the contracts with the companies that operate those cameras.

Hence, the actions make it blatantly clear to all except the most daft that it's mainly about money and NOT about safety.

Svend > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 01/03/2015 at 05:57

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So your saying that, from the window analogy, that because you can go faster you should be able too? They have shown that in the right place they can reduce incidents and fatalities but I want to see more coppers on the beat and out patrolling in police cars marked and unmarked to drum into daft peoples heads that speeding isn't conducive to safety where a legal speed limit has been set.

DON'T SPEED, DON'T GET THE TICKET. It can't be made any simpler.

I'll leave you on your soap box, just be careful the higher up you get the more it'll hurt when you fall over. Take care.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Svend 01/03/2015 at 12:34

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No I'm saying that the road was designed right from the start for higher speeds just like the window was designed from the start to open all the way.

So when you put on an artificial limit, it feels like an artificial/arbitrary limit... because that's what it is.

You completely missed the point.

Svend > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 01/03/2015 at 12:40

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Granted, I did miss your point but only from the point of view that I assumed you were referring to the fact you could go faster rather than the road is in itself suitable for higher road speeds. The point still stands, if you don't want a speeding ticket, don't speed and if you feel that it is not the correct speed for the road petition your authority and people around you into getting it changed. Work with the system. While people are speeding past the camera it's only giving more ammunition to them to keep the camera there as you pointed out that you feel it's just a money generating machine, stop letting it generate that money.

TDogg > Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 01/03/2015 at 18:02

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I wish my garage was half this interesting

Chuck 2(O=[][]=O)2 > TDogg 01/03/2015 at 18:45

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Don't we all

ACESandEIGHTS > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 01/04/2015 at 12:27

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Nice pic. Never forget.

Our founding fathers foresaw and tried to outlaw traffic cameras. It's true. Look at Britain—they have more cameras in London than we have in all of the US.

For the UK? It's too late. Orwell has had his prophetic way with you. For the US, there's still time to order your dumbass Tea Party costume so you can appear in public sporting frills and then never get laid again.